Sampletank 4 loads slowly!

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Sampletank 4 loads slowly!

Postby samplemaniac » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:51 pm

ST4 loading quite slowly, for example, Black LP keyswitch preset (very big file,7,1 Gb)
loads over or almost one minute! :cry:

I know that I have only 1 Tb Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm hard disk for my
sample files (Kontakt, Independence Pro, Structure, ST4),
surely it loads from SSD much faster! 8-)
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Re: Sampletank 4 loads slowly!

Postby dlgebert » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:44 pm

The full keyswitch guitars do take quite a while, especially the Red Strat, which takes over a minute on my IMac and consumes about 6GB, which also includes my host DAW, Studio One 4. They sound great though... but that is my experience as well.

The nice thing is there are smaller versions without the full instrument if your project doesn't require the full instrument.

The smaller instruments, like some of the woodwinds and synthesizers, etc., load in seconds for me.

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Re: Sampletank 4 loads slowly!

Postby Tom Kearney » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:30 pm

The Red Strat KS takes about 11 seconds on my fast PC with an SSD. Memory footprint (standalone) is about 5.5 gig - which is in line with what you are seeing.

The C7 Grand Classical piano takes 2 seconds. So, It looks like the Strat is large. A minute is a long time, though.

I added an SSD drive about six months ago, for various sampled instrument libraries. It looks like almost a necessity these days....

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Re: Sampletank 4 loads slowly!

Postby DarkStar » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:45 pm

Just wondering - is there an Antivirus doing background scans on the files are they are loaded? If so, then perhaps you can exclude the ST4 library folder from those checks.
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Re: Sampletank 4 loads slowly!

Postby samplemaniac » Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:06 pm

dlgebert wrote:The full keyswitch guitars do take quite a while, especially the Red Strat, which takes over a minute on my IMac and consumes about 6GB, which also includes my host DAW, Studio One 4. They sound great though... but that is my experience as well.

The nice thing is there are smaller versions without the full instrument if your project doesn't require the full instrument.

The smaller instruments, like some of the woodwinds and synthesizers, etc., load in seconds for me.

Thanks- Dave


Is this from hard disk or ssd?
I know that ssd with M.2 are really fast!!
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Re: Sampletank 4 loads slowly!

Postby dlgebert » Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:21 pm

samplemaniac wrote:Is this from hard disk or ssd?


It is being loaded from a hard disk. My next IMac will have SSD.

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Re: Sampletank 4 loads slowly!

Postby samplemaniac » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:23 pm

I have Samsung 850 EVO 256 Gb (SATA3) for OS disk and programs
with abpout 100 Gb empty space left.

Would It be reasonable to transfer 75Gb Sampletank 4 (I have only ST4 Standard)
to SSD OS disk?
Loading faster but then leaving only 25 Gb empty space left for SSD. :idea:
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Re: Sampletank 4 loads slowly!

Postby garfy » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:33 pm

samplemaniac wrote:I have Samsung 850 EVO 256 Gb (SATA3) for OS disk and programs
with abpout 100 Gb empty space left.

Would It be reasonable to transfer 75Gb Sampletank 4 (I have only ST4 Standard)
to SSD OS disk?
Loading faster but then leaving only 25 Gb empty space left for SSD. :idea:


You don't say if you are on macOS or Windows, but either way you'll be on the cusp of running into potential problems. The general best practice rule of thumb is around 10-20%, to allow space for swap filing and defragmentation. YMMV.
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Re: Sampletank 4 loads slowly!

Postby samplemaniac » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:35 pm

tkearneyone@gmail.com wrote:The Red Strat KS takes about 11 seconds on my fast PC with an SSD. Memory footprint (standalone) is about 5.5 gig - which is in line with what you are seeing.

The C7 Grand Classical piano takes 2 seconds. So, It looks like the Strat is large. A minute is a long time, though.

I added an SSD drive about six months ago, for various sampled instrument libraries. It looks like almost a necessity these days....

Tom


Is this fast loading with SSD M.2 or SATA3 ?
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Re: Sampletank 4 loads slowly!

Postby samplemaniac » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:39 pm

garfy wrote:
samplemaniac wrote:I have Samsung 850 EVO 256 Gb (SATA3) for OS disk and programs
with abpout 100 Gb empty space left.

Would It be reasonable to transfer 75Gb Sampletank 4 (I have only ST4 Standard)
to SSD OS disk?
Loading faster but then leaving only 25 Gb empty space left for SSD. :idea:


You don't say if you are on macOS or Windows, but either way you'll be on the cusp of running into potential problems. The general best practice rule of thumb is around 10-20%, to allow space for swap filing and defragmentation. YMMV.


It's Windows 10 OS !

So it would be better to buy at least quite cheap Kingston A400 240Gb SATA3 SSD disk ?
How much faster this would be than hard disk ?
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Re: Sampletank 4 loads slowly!

Postby Tom Kearney » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:41 pm

samplemaniac wrote:
tkearneyone@gmail.com wrote:The Red Strat KS takes about 11 seconds on my fast PC with an SSD. Memory footprint (standalone) is about 5.5 gig - which is in line with what you are seeing.

The C7 Grand Classical piano takes 2 seconds. So, It looks like the Strat is large. A minute is a long time, though.

I added an SSD drive about six months ago, for various sampled instrument libraries. It looks like almost a necessity these days....

Tom


Is this fast loading with SSD M.2 or SATA3 ?


It is SATA3 - my motherboard M.2 is too small (256G) for sample storage!

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Re: Sampletank 4 loads slowly!

Postby garfy » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:50 pm

samplemaniac wrote:So it would be better to buy at least quite cheap Kingston A400 240Gb SATA3 SSD disk ?
How much faster this would be than hard disk ?


No idea I'm afraid. I'm sure it'll be faster though :D
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