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Re: Announcing AmpliTube 4!

Postby Peter_IK » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:52 pm

@jeffthall - I think you are confusing JamPoints with Gear Credits, and you can buy any gear a la carte in Custom Shop for cash so we do have the "this costs $25" that you mention.

Hope that clarifies some things.
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Re: Announcing AmpliTube 4!

Postby jstyork » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:54 pm

Yes that's right. I meant gear credits
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Re: Announcing AmpliTube 4!

Postby jstyork » Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:47 pm

That's good news on being able to buy stuff with with real money as opposed to credits. When was this adopted? It's been many months since I visited the shop.
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Re: Announcing AmpliTube 4!

Postby carlaz » Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:18 am

It's pretty recent -- in the last couple of months, I think. I do visit the Custom Shop not infrequently, but I haven't bought a lot recently, since I've been holding out in hopes of substantial upgrades and/or new gear that I might really want. Amplitube 4 is bringing some of that :D though you cannot actually get it via the Custom Shop.
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Re: Announcing AmpliTube 4!

Postby smata65 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:54 am

carlaz wrote:It's pretty recent -- in the last couple of months, I think. I do visit the Custom Shop not infrequently, but I haven't bought a lot recently, since I've been holding out in hopes of substantial upgrades and/or new gear that I might really want. Amplitube 4 is bringing some of that :D though you cannot actually get it via the Custom Shop.


Carlaz, You can get AT 4 via the custom shop! Just go to collections and you'll see the preorder at the top of the list
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Re: Announcing AmpliTube 4!

Postby metropolis4 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:52 am

jeffthall wrote:The other big turnoff for me is this whole gear credit thing. It's a joke and has no benefit to me as a user whatsoever. I always end up with some credit (my money) left in my account, only it's rarely enough to buy anything or there's nothing else I want to buy, so it just sits there. What possible reason would a company adopt such a silly PITA system if it wasn't designed to benefit them?


I bought credits during this recent sale where you get a certain percentage more. And now I have 7 credits in my account and it's driving me absolutely crazy because there's no way to use credits other than in multiples of 5! So now I will forever have at least 2 useless credits in my account. I would be happier if IK would just take them away. There's an OCD part of me that cringes every single time I see those stupid 7 credits.

jeffthall wrote:The new amps do sound good and I'll keep an eye out for more in-depth looks at A4, but preordering is out of the question.


I've decided against preordering as well. I think I'll try out the free version, and if it's good I'll download 1 of the new amp models in the custom shop and have everything I would ever use for a lot cheaper than the whole thing. I can't see myself ever needing 5 different Marshall models. 1 is plenty for all my Marshall needs.

Still completely baffled by the decision to make every amp model a Marshall for the premier release... :?
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Re: Announcing AmpliTube 4!

Postby arrand » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:11 pm

Any chance of a comparison chart between the free version and the paid?
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Re: Announcing AmpliTube 4!

Postby carlaz » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:56 pm

smata65 wrote:Carlaz, You can get AT 4 via the custom shop! Just go to collections and you'll see the preorder at the top of the list

Well, whaddya know! I clearly didn't poke around enough. :o But I pre-ordered through the Web site, and as it long as it comes my way on the day, that'll be all right. 8-)
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Re: Announcing AmpliTube 4!

Postby jwlehman1 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:38 am

I purchased AmpliTube 3 about a month ago...yet another time I buy something from a software company and they turn around and say guess what? We have a newer version that you might want!

I am being sarcastic, but having only purchased it a month ago, IK knew they had version 4 ready for release. When I ask whether I would have to pay the full upgrade price, guess what the answer was? I don't mind supporting IK. I own several of their more expensive products for both the Windows and IPad platform. I just feel like I'm getting bent over on this one.

Rant over for now.
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Re: Announcing AmpliTube 4!

Postby Peter_IK » Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:27 am

AmpliTube 4 contains none of the gear from AmpliTube 3 so you were not getting "bent over" as you would have none of that gear in AmpliTube 4. Please check out http://www.ikmultimedia.com/amplitube4 and the "Gear" tab (and other tabs) which explain all that you get with AmpliTube 4 but again note you would not have any of the gear you have now from AmpliTube 3 if you only purchased AmpliTube 4.

Since you bought during the $69.99 promo, that would mean that you have over 160 more pieces of gear than anybody who only purchases AmpliTube 4 and you accrued 8 JamPoints from that and have 15 available to use in order to bring the already-discounted (1/3 off) preorder price down to $84.99. That would get you the following for just under $155 (assuming you didn't use JamPoints on AmpliTube 3 during the promotion) which is about $5 more than AmpliTube MESA/Boogie (with 5 amps & cabs only) currently:

160 pieces of gear from AmpliTube 3 (normally $/€199.99 on its own)

From AmpliTube 4:
  • 3D Cab Room w/ selectable room simulations
  • Dual Mic placement on any speaker
  • Individual speaker selection
  • Speaker interaction modeling
  • Cabinet mixer for mics, room, DI and master level
  • New British Series Amps (5 amps & cabs - note that AmpliTube MESA/Boogie has 5 amps & cabs and nothing else on this list for $150)
  • Power Amp/Speaker dynamic response
  • Acoustic Simulator
  • Effects loop slot between pre and power amp
  • Universal effects placement
  • Rack effects can be used as stomp effects
  • Stomp effects can be used in rack section
  • 8-track DAW/Recorder
  • 4-track Looper
  • UltraTuner

You also have the option to get enough Gear Credits in the current promotion (only two days left, though) at http://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/news.php?id=572 by purchasing the 75 Gear Credit pack at $74.99 (which gets you 87 total Gear Credits during the promotion) and apply 15 Jam Points to spend $59.99 and have enough to get the AmpliTube 4 preorder in Custom Shop and have some left over. That would be a total of just under $130 for everything above.

JamPoints are how IK shows appreciation for your business, and you gain them from non-AmpliTube purchases too so this would give you more than just AmpliTube-based loyalty bonus from IK. I hope this explains a little bit more of how this can be a very serious deal via loyalty JamPoints (plus bonus JamPoints along the way) as well as the promotions IK has put in place along the way to lead to less than $1 per piece of gear... and that's only counting gear. The AmpliTube 4 features are far more than the gear that comes with it.

If IK knew anything, it would be that there was serious value to be had for AmpliTube users.
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Re: Announcing AmpliTube 4!

Postby PB26AT » Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:53 am

Just bought AmpliTube 4. Two quick questions:

1) Can I have AT3 & AT4 as separate standalone programs (not used in DAW) on the same computer without any weird consequences? I'd like to keep using AT3 until I get the full lay of the land in AT4.

2) Speaker switching: I'm guessing that individual speakers will need to be purchased with credits, then you can use the swapping functionality. Correct?
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Re: Announcing AmpliTube 4!

Postby jwlehman1 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:22 am

Peter, that's creative financing! I agree that if I look at it that way, then it's not a bad deal. You are basically stating that Ampkitube 4 is a different product. I will apologize for my harsh comments. My main point was that I was sold a version of a product when Ik had the new version in their back pocket. I just need to be smarter about your product cycles.

Regards,
Jeff

Peter_IK wrote:AmpliTube 4 contains none of the gear from AmpliTube 3 so you were not getting "bent over" as you would have none of that gear in AmpliTube 4. Please check out http://www.ikmultimedia.com/amplitube4 and the "Gear" tab (and other tabs) which explain all that you get with AmpliTube 4 but again note you would not have any of the gear you have now from AmpliTube 3 if you only purchased AmpliTube 4.

Since you bought during the $69.99 promo, that would mean that you have over 160 more pieces of gear than anybody who only purchases AmpliTube 4 and you accrued 8 JamPoints from that and have 15 available to use in order to bring the already-discounted (1/3 off) preorder price down to $84.99. That would get you the following for just under $155 (assuming you didn't use JamPoints on AmpliTube 3 during the promotion) which is about $5 more than AmpliTube MESA/Boogie (with 5 amps & cabs only) currently:

160 pieces of gear from AmpliTube 3 (normally $/€199.99 on its own)

From AmpliTube 4:
  • 3D Cab Room w/ selectable room simulations
  • Dual Mic placement on any speaker
  • Individual speaker selection
  • Speaker interaction modeling
  • Cabinet mixer for mics, room, DI and master level
  • New British Series Amps (5 amps & cabs - note that AmpliTube MESA/Boogie has 5 amps & cabs and nothing else on this list for $150)
  • Power Amp/Speaker dynamic response
  • Acoustic Simulator
  • Effects loop slot between pre and power amp
  • Universal effects placement
  • Rack effects can be used as stomp effects
  • Stomp effects can be used in rack section
  • 8-track DAW/Recorder
  • 4-track Looper
  • UltraTuner

You also have the option to get enough Gear Credits in the current promotion (only two days left, though) at http://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/news.php?id=572 by purchasing the 75 Gear Credit pack at $74.99 (which gets you 87 total Gear Credits during the promotion) and apply 15 Jam Points to spend $59.99 and have enough to get the AmpliTube 4 preorder in Custom Shop and have some left over. That would be a total of just under $130 for everything above.

JamPoints are how IK shows appreciation for your business, and you gain them from non-AmpliTube purchases too so this would give you more than just AmpliTube-based loyalty bonus from IK. I hope this explains a little bit more of how this can be a very serious deal via loyalty JamPoints (plus bonus JamPoints along the way) as well as the promotions IK has put in place along the way to lead to less than $1 per piece of gear... and that's only counting gear. The AmpliTube 4 features are far more than the gear that comes with it.

If IK knew anything, it would be that there was serious value to be had for AmpliTube users.
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Re: Announcing AmpliTube 4!

Postby dharris14 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:50 am

Yesterday, I did exactly as Peter suggested. I purchased a 75 Gear Credit Pack (87 total Gear Credits during the promotion), applying 22 Jam Points at checkout. Then I went over to the Custom Shop, where I already had 35 gear credits (courtesy of IK), and purchased Amplitube 4 for a grand total of 53 bucks. Also, immediately after the purchase my Jam Points replenished. Now, I'm all set for T-RackS 5 ;)
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Re: Announcing AmpliTube 4!

Postby acousticglue » Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:38 pm

PB26AT wrote:Just bought AmpliTube 4. Two quick questions:

1) Can I have AT3 & AT4 as separate standalone programs (not used in DAW) on the same computer without any weird consequences? I'd like to keep using AT3 until I get the full lay of the land in AT4.

2) Speaker switching: I'm guessing that individual speakers will need to be purchased with credits, then you can use the swapping functionality. Correct?


Wondering this myself
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Re: Announcing AmpliTube 4!

Postby PB26AT » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:05 pm

No need to take this personally, but I'm finding a lot of the misgivings about price, etc. to be really odd.

Let's say you have AT3. If you want to upgrade, you can get it at 2/3 of the release day price (which you can reduce further with any JamPoints you may have kicking around). How is that not a good deal?

And if you recently got AT3, it's an old program and it was due for a makeover. I think it's unreasonable to expect a company to flag this type of release 6 months in advance because, well, their revenue would flatline. I got AT3 in January and I'm not miffed at all. It's a business they're running here, you gotta pay for new stuff.
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