"On the Other Side" ("'70s Proto-Metal" with AmpliTube 5)

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"On the Other Side" ("'70s Proto-Metal" with AmpliTube 5)

Postby carlaz » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:18 pm

This is an all-instrumental demo (because I think it would scare my family if I tried to record the vocals while we're all still stuck in the house together! :lol: ) that still lacks a guitar solo (because I have to compose one that I can play at this speed! :lol: ):



It's kind of a '70s-ish "proto-metal" kind of thing. A little too fast and punky to just be '70s hard rock, but not into '80s NWOBHM or thrash territory, either.

I actually tracked the guitars/bass last autumn (2020) using AmpliTube 4; I went back in the last week or so and remixed using AmpliTube 5. This is all done in Logic Pro, so there are some stock plugins and some 3rd-party plugins used in the overall mix, though all basics of the guitars and bass are done with AmpliTube 5. (And there are some T-Racks, plugins as well ... like there's the Space Delay on a bus for the guitar intro, etc.).

Guitars are all done with my old '90s Les Paul and are actually quad-tracked. Two of those tracks are the main ones, louder than the other two. These main tracks are panned left and right; one uses the JH Gold with the Treble Booster from the Brian May collection and the Satch Green cab from the Satriani collection; the other is the OR120 with the matching PPC412 cab. Then, the two other tracks (also panned left and right, lower in the mix) are both done with the HiAmp head and cab model set cleanish (for a little more presence and "low jangle" behind the other guitars. The Uni-V pedal comes on for these during the bridge section, though it's not explicitly audible, but just providing a little more movement. So, basically the guitars are a festival of vintage "Brit-type" amps. :mrgreen:

The bass is my Rickenbacker 4001 (retrofitted with HB1 pickups) and it's all done with a single bass track -- it's not split out into multiple tracks for the high- vs. low-end -- but I have sort of imitated that kind of processing within the AmpliTube 5 plugin. The chain is one amp and cab path (and OR120 and matching cab) which is just for high-end dirt (mids/lows are wiped off from about 500 Hz downwards) and there's a DI path that has a rack EQ to most everything above 200-250 Hz, and this is heavily compressed to provide the low end. So, the approach is a bit modern, but otherwise this is another vintage "British-type" amp. (The OR120 provides pretty good "clank", though, of that modern heavy rock/metal bass style.)

That's it! OK, there are also the drums (done basically with the Logic Pro "Drummer" feature) and a little synth pad in the intro (a Logic Pro soft synth) ... but, other than those, that's it! :D
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Re: "On the Other Side" ("'70s Proto-Metal" with AmpliTube 5

Postby mklankin@hotmail.com » Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:12 am

Whoa! Wasn’t sure what to expect but, man, that is a throbbing track! Makes me wanna hop in my car right now and drive fast to no place in particular.

Sounds are great as is the mix and I appreciate the detailed breakdown of the tracks. ;)

Getting Drummer nailed down for those sweet change-ups and fills must have been tedious but well worth it.

Looking very forward to see how this one evolves….whenever u get a chance to lay down vox with the family occupied somewhere else.

Super enjoyed it so please post more!
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Re: "On the Other Side" ("'70s Proto-Metal" with AmpliTube 5

Postby carlaz » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:26 pm

I made a slightly updated version of the track with a somewhat more aggressively mixed kick drum, but I don't seem to be able to edit the original post, so here's the new Soundcloud link:
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Re: "On the Other Side" ("'70s Proto-Metal" with AmpliTube 5

Postby carlaz » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:40 pm

mklankin@hotmail.com wrote:Whoa! Wasn’t sure what to expect but, man, that is a throbbing track! Makes me wanna hop in my car right now and drive fast to no place in particular.
Sounds are great as is the mix and I appreciate the detailed breakdown of the tracks. ;)
Getting Drummer nailed down for those sweet change-ups and fills must have been tedious but well worth it.
Looking very forward to see how this one evolves….whenever u get a chance to lay down vox with the family occupied somewhere else.
Super enjoyed it so please post more!

Thanks! :D I'll probably get a solo put together before I get vocals recorded -- but I hope to get it all put together someday!

If there were a "new AmpliTube preset exchange", I could post the presets there, but I figured a basic description of the approach in AmpliTube was better than nothing. The bass was the most convoluted thing; here's a screenshot of just the chain:
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It's trying to do what one would normally do by splitting the bass into two tracks in the DAW. The EQ and compression tools in AmpliTube aren't really optimized for this kind of purpose, but they can be used to get the job done. When I finish tracking and get to a more advanced mixing stage, I can always revisit things!

I actually kind of enjoy tweaking Logic's Drummer. :lol: It reminds me of talking to a somewhat recalcitrant actual drummer when I myself don't really know how to express it: "Eh, more of that there ... No, not those cymbals! Dial it back ... OK, and do a thing on the toms ... but not so straight; splash around a bit ...". And etc. :lol: There are only a few sections, mostly in the latter part of the bridge, where I actually wrote specific MIDI drum parts (and usually quite short). But I think Logic's Drummer feature is rather more useful and powerful than many people give it credit for. It just takes a somewhat different mindset. Even if I want drum sounds from some other instrument, I usually work out parts with Drummer and then move the resultant MIDI to the new instrument.
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Re: "On the Other Side" ("'70s Proto-Metal" with AmpliTube 5

Postby CrazySchmidt » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:14 am

Wow, that was fu-ckin groovy brother, I've always digged your groove!!

I'll probably have something more constructive to say when I'm sober.

Cheers, keep rockin.

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Re: "On the Other Side" ("'70s Proto-Metal" with AmpliTube 5

Postby carlaz » Sat May 01, 2021 12:07 am

CrazySchmidt wrote:Wow, that was fu-ckin groovy brother, I've always digged your groove!!
I'll probably have something more constructive to say when I'm sober.

Your non-sober words of encouragement are appreciated! :mrgreen:
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